Presentation submitted and accepted for CEUs for the American Association of Nurse Practitioner's annual conference in New Orleans June 2015. I have to admit, I do think my working title "When Liquid Gold Goes Bust" was a smidge catchier. Here is a sneak-peak for those of you coming to AANP15 and for those of you who will be there in spirit.
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Sunday, April 19, 2015
Sunday, November 23, 2014
AANP Abstract Accepted!
When I submitted my abstract, Counting Every Drop: Navigating Low Milk Supply, for consideration for the American Association of Nurse Practitioners 2015 national conference in New Orleans, I did not expect it to be accepted. Not only was this my first submission to AANP, but the conference presenters are the top of their field, and this topic is very much out of my daily professional expertise. I am surprised and honored to be selected as a podium presenter and to share the knowledge that I researched out of my personal struggles dealing with low-milk supply. Here is a look at my abstract submission:
Brief Bio
Dr. Jaclyn Engelsher is a Psychiatric Mental Health and Family Nurse Practitioner, and is nationally certified in Oriental Medicine. She has over a decade of experience blending allopathic and complementary evidence-based therapies for physical and emotional wellness.
Summarize why the topic is important
Current guidelines recommend exclusive breastfeeding for the first six-months of life, however many women are unable to produce adequate milk to meet this goal. Unlike initial difficulties or short-term factors that impact full supply, those suffering with chronic low-milk supply require a higher level of education, management, and support to increase or maintain production. The purpose of this presentation is to describe genetic, social, and emotional factors that contribute to low milk supply, and provide the practitioner with a summary of evidence-based allopathic and complementary interventions.
Summarize the literature on the subject
A review of the literature demonstrates up to 15% of women experience insufficient lactation, and 4-5% have chronic-low supply. The contributing factors can be categorized into issues of either production or extraction. Breast structure, previous breast surgery, certain medications, and pregnancy or postpartum complications contribute to production issues. Extraction issues may be related to feeding length and frequency, insufficient milk transfer, and incomplete breast emptying. Early detection and intervention with galactagogues, latch correction, and feeding or pumping optimization increase the likelihood of reaching full supply.
Summarize the focus of the presentation, such as management of condition, etc.
This presentation will provide evaluation strategies and review causes of low milk supply, including insufficient glandular tissue, infant lip and posterior tongue tie, postpartum difficulties, hormonal imbalances, diet, and emotional factors. Pharmaceutical, herbal, and food-based galactagogues, and lifestyle interventions such as feeding and pumping regimens, will be presented to help the practitioner identify appropriate management strategies. A list of patient education and peer-support references will be provided.
Describe the implications for practice, policy, education, and/or research
Low-milk supply evaluation and intervention has practice implications for the nurse practitioner specializing in pediatric, women’s-health, family, and mental health care. Differentiating transient from chronic supply issues, and early identification and management are key in choosing the appropriate intervention for the physical and emotional health of mother and baby.
Brief Bio
Dr. Jaclyn Engelsher is a Psychiatric Mental Health and Family Nurse Practitioner, and is nationally certified in Oriental Medicine. She has over a decade of experience blending allopathic and complementary evidence-based therapies for physical and emotional wellness.
Summarize why the topic is important
Current guidelines recommend exclusive breastfeeding for the first six-months of life, however many women are unable to produce adequate milk to meet this goal. Unlike initial difficulties or short-term factors that impact full supply, those suffering with chronic low-milk supply require a higher level of education, management, and support to increase or maintain production. The purpose of this presentation is to describe genetic, social, and emotional factors that contribute to low milk supply, and provide the practitioner with a summary of evidence-based allopathic and complementary interventions.
Summarize the literature on the subject
A review of the literature demonstrates up to 15% of women experience insufficient lactation, and 4-5% have chronic-low supply. The contributing factors can be categorized into issues of either production or extraction. Breast structure, previous breast surgery, certain medications, and pregnancy or postpartum complications contribute to production issues. Extraction issues may be related to feeding length and frequency, insufficient milk transfer, and incomplete breast emptying. Early detection and intervention with galactagogues, latch correction, and feeding or pumping optimization increase the likelihood of reaching full supply.
Summarize the focus of the presentation, such as management of condition, etc.
This presentation will provide evaluation strategies and review causes of low milk supply, including insufficient glandular tissue, infant lip and posterior tongue tie, postpartum difficulties, hormonal imbalances, diet, and emotional factors. Pharmaceutical, herbal, and food-based galactagogues, and lifestyle interventions such as feeding and pumping regimens, will be presented to help the practitioner identify appropriate management strategies. A list of patient education and peer-support references will be provided.
Describe the implications for practice, policy, education, and/or research
Low-milk supply evaluation and intervention has practice implications for the nurse practitioner specializing in pediatric, women’s-health, family, and mental health care. Differentiating transient from chronic supply issues, and early identification and management are key in choosing the appropriate intervention for the physical and emotional health of mother and baby.
Tuesday, October 14, 2014
Traumatic Birth Experience: APNA28
This was very much a professional departure and a personal journey
Pinterest Traumatic Birth Resources
Facebook
Solace for Mothers
ICAN: International Cesarean Awareness Network
Additional references:
Grieving Through Grateful: Reconciling the Traumatic Birth Experience from Jaclyn Engelsher, DNP
Community and Peer Support Reference Links:
Community and Peer Support Reference Links:
Baby Center Community Disappointing Birth Experience
Solace for Mothers
- Website: http://www.solaceformothers.org
- Forum: http://mothers.solaceformothers.org
ICAN: International Cesarean Awareness Network
Additional references:
Wednesday, July 16, 2014
Trashing the CAPA-NS!
As of today, nurse practitioners in Kentucky can submit a form to dissolve the collaborative agreement with physicians for non-scheduled medications, provided they have been prescribing for 4 years. This is an exciting change on the road to full practice authority. Next stop, the removing the barriers for scheduled prescribing!
Visit the Kentucky Coalition of Nurse Practitioners and Midwives for the most up-to-date legislation on APRN practice in Kentucky!
Visit the Kentucky Coalition of Nurse Practitioners and Midwives for the most up-to-date legislation on APRN practice in Kentucky!
Wednesday, March 13, 2013
Kentucky Battle Cry . . . Y'all
Seriously, if you live in Kentucky or know someone who does, please take a moment to voice your support for SB 43 which will end the collaborative agreement for non-scheduled drugs for nurse practitioners and decrease direct supervisory time for new-graduate physician assistants. Just click the link to email your senator - it takes less than 3 minutes: Vote "YES!" to SB43
The postcards below are from the previous SB52. The facts are still the facts.
Monday, March 4, 2013
Laugh and Discuss
A few years ago I ran across this video that humorously illustrates the dangers of narrow focus. I was reminded of it the other day when discussing frustrations related to provider communication issues and stigmatization. There are a number of similar scenarios between different specialties that pop up after the video, including some amusing psychiatry vs. physical medicine interactions, but this remains my favorite.
I needed a laugh today - have one with me:
I needed a laugh today - have one with me:
Monday, February 18, 2013
The Most Restrictive Environment
The psych ward. The nut house. The loony bin. The asylum. Whatever you call it, it is not the place most of us want to be, yet it often becomes the dump site for the stigmatized. Although we are trending toward more blended medical-psychiatric and gero-psychiatric inpatient units that allow more medical management to take place concurrently, the ideal environment for mental health management is in the outpatient setting.
I believe in the principle of least restrictive environment for mental health care. Some providers are confused and feel psychiatric floors should be the depository for issues they do not want to deal with or are not interesting enough for medicine. Certainly, chronic mental illness is an issue of management rather than cure, and acute-care physical health providers are often intimidated by conditions that cannot be eliminated by pharmacological or surgical interventions. Many would prefer to pass people off rather than deal with complex matters of mind-body interaction. Perhaps if some of them visited a psych unit, they might get a fresh perspective. Let's review what happens when a person is admitted to a psychiatric ward versus a medical ward:
We take your clothes
We search your belongings and lock them up
We lock the doors and windows to the unit so you cannot get out
We take your phone, e-reader, laptop, music player, and electronics
We restrict when and who can visit you
We tell you when you can and cannot talk on a common, public phone
We tell you when you get up and when to go to bed
We put you in a room with 1-3 other people in beds that do not adjust
We tell you what you can and cannot watch and when on a common TV
We take away your right to smoke
We take away your food choices and deny outside delivery
We take away your right to breath fresh air
We label you as a "psych patient" for life with all the privileges of stigma therein
In short, we take away your constitutional liberties. So why do we do that?
Sometimes, it is because it is the only way to keep a person safe. Psychosis, suicidality, homicidality, mania - these are viable reasons to put someone in this most restrictive environment with the intent and hope of finding the right treatment plan as quickly as possible to get this person stable and back in the community. Sometimes we do it when the person really feels it is in their best interest because they feel unsafe or unstable and want to prevent escalation of symptoms. These are the two scenarios where admission is the right thing to do.
However, not everyone who has delusions, suicidality, or mania needs to be admitted. Just because it is in the brain, does not mean it needs to be managed by psych. For example, seizures are seizures - whether from epilepsy, alcohol withdrawal, or psychosomatic origins, they need to be monitored by the medical team. Keeping the old Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs care theory becomes particularly useful in holistic, individualized treatment planning for patients with complex and co-morbid disorders.
These days, to be in a hospital for more than an outpatient procedure, you better be sick. This goes for physical and mental illness. Unfortunately, many providers take a cavalier attitude when it comes to dispositioning someone on a locked psychiatric ward and use a DSM diagnosis as a basis to gloss over a through medical assessment and justify an inappropriate admission to a psychiatric unit. Two areas that seem to be ripe for controversy are dementia and substance abuse.
Being confused is not justification for taking you freedom. If it were, half the hospital staff would qualify by Thursday afternoon. This confusion about the confused occurs frequently with the elderly, who will often manifest altered mental symptoms as a result of multiple drug interactions, any number of physical condition, or just plain physical neurodegenerative changes related to a specific disorder or the normal aging process. When medicine tries to label all hallucinations as psych in origin, I harken back to a high school biology class where we discussed the how visual and tactile hallucinations were linked with everything from UTIs to syphilis. This was repeated and detailed multiple times through the course of my nursing education in the family practice and mental health specialties. Plus, I have seen Trainspotting at least 5 times. See it if you haven't.
Needing to dry out from a bender is also inappropriate not only from the aspect of liberty, but competent care for withdrawal symptoms. Most psychiatric facilities and wards have restrictions on medical interventions or devices. IVs, catheters, ports or lines, telemetry monitoring, uncontrolled seizures, and unstable vital signs are just some common limitations that warrant the patient seeking a medical rather than psychiatric management, no matter what their state of mind. When medical teams refuse to medically detox a patient "because they are psych," I get miffed.
They may have psych issues. They are not themselves psych. They are people who need placement in the least restrictive environment possible to provide positive outcomes for long-term management.
I believe in the principle of least restrictive environment for mental health care. Some providers are confused and feel psychiatric floors should be the depository for issues they do not want to deal with or are not interesting enough for medicine. Certainly, chronic mental illness is an issue of management rather than cure, and acute-care physical health providers are often intimidated by conditions that cannot be eliminated by pharmacological or surgical interventions. Many would prefer to pass people off rather than deal with complex matters of mind-body interaction. Perhaps if some of them visited a psych unit, they might get a fresh perspective. Let's review what happens when a person is admitted to a psychiatric ward versus a medical ward:
We take your clothes
We search your belongings and lock them up
We lock the doors and windows to the unit so you cannot get out
We take your phone, e-reader, laptop, music player, and electronics
We restrict when and who can visit you
We tell you when you can and cannot talk on a common, public phone
We tell you when you get up and when to go to bed
We put you in a room with 1-3 other people in beds that do not adjust
We tell you what you can and cannot watch and when on a common TV
We take away your right to smoke
We take away your food choices and deny outside delivery
We take away your right to breath fresh air
We label you as a "psych patient" for life with all the privileges of stigma therein
In short, we take away your constitutional liberties. So why do we do that?
Sometimes, it is because it is the only way to keep a person safe. Psychosis, suicidality, homicidality, mania - these are viable reasons to put someone in this most restrictive environment with the intent and hope of finding the right treatment plan as quickly as possible to get this person stable and back in the community. Sometimes we do it when the person really feels it is in their best interest because they feel unsafe or unstable and want to prevent escalation of symptoms. These are the two scenarios where admission is the right thing to do.
However, not everyone who has delusions, suicidality, or mania needs to be admitted. Just because it is in the brain, does not mean it needs to be managed by psych. For example, seizures are seizures - whether from epilepsy, alcohol withdrawal, or psychosomatic origins, they need to be monitored by the medical team. Keeping the old Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs care theory becomes particularly useful in holistic, individualized treatment planning for patients with complex and co-morbid disorders.
These days, to be in a hospital for more than an outpatient procedure, you better be sick. This goes for physical and mental illness. Unfortunately, many providers take a cavalier attitude when it comes to dispositioning someone on a locked psychiatric ward and use a DSM diagnosis as a basis to gloss over a through medical assessment and justify an inappropriate admission to a psychiatric unit. Two areas that seem to be ripe for controversy are dementia and substance abuse.
Being confused is not justification for taking you freedom. If it were, half the hospital staff would qualify by Thursday afternoon. This confusion about the confused occurs frequently with the elderly, who will often manifest altered mental symptoms as a result of multiple drug interactions, any number of physical condition, or just plain physical neurodegenerative changes related to a specific disorder or the normal aging process. When medicine tries to label all hallucinations as psych in origin, I harken back to a high school biology class where we discussed the how visual and tactile hallucinations were linked with everything from UTIs to syphilis. This was repeated and detailed multiple times through the course of my nursing education in the family practice and mental health specialties. Plus, I have seen Trainspotting at least 5 times. See it if you haven't.
Needing to dry out from a bender is also inappropriate not only from the aspect of liberty, but competent care for withdrawal symptoms. Most psychiatric facilities and wards have restrictions on medical interventions or devices. IVs, catheters, ports or lines, telemetry monitoring, uncontrolled seizures, and unstable vital signs are just some common limitations that warrant the patient seeking a medical rather than psychiatric management, no matter what their state of mind. When medical teams refuse to medically detox a patient "because they are psych," I get miffed.
They may have psych issues. They are not themselves psych. They are people who need placement in the least restrictive environment possible to provide positive outcomes for long-term management.
Saturday, January 19, 2013
Beyond Nouns: The Role of Language on the Role Itself
As I have been educating people on "doctor-nurse" education and role, a confused laugh has become the expected reaction. Even I admit, I have referred to myself as doctor-nurse as a jocular shorthand to explain my credentials to colleagues. But why is it more amusing than a doctor-optometrist or doctor-physical therapist or doctor-pharmacist? I do not think it is the novelty alone as nurses have been getting educational and research doctorates for many years. Perhaps because in the clinical area, the two terms conjure up distinctly different images that do not easily meld. In yet another demonstration of how language is the way we view the world, I thought this deserved a little contemplation.
When people use the term "nursing" in the colloquial sense, they are usually referring to a nurturing role or healing process. Breast feeding, otherwise known as nursing, is a natural process of providing life-sustaining nourishment and immunity factors for growth and development from mother to child. We also use it to refer to consumption of adult nourishment, such as "nursing" a whisky all evening. "Nursing" may also refer to the need to nourish and nurture pragmatic matters like retirement accounts or mild illness and injury. Nursing, as in "back to health," brings to mind images of dressing wounds, holding hands, providing words of support and encouragement, or enduring the process by handling with care (such as nursing a hangover brought on by the aforementioned whisky!). People generally "nurse" others.
The colloquial use of "doctoring" often refers to fixing something. This is particularly the case with under-spiced or pre-prepared foods that one needs to alter or, "doctor up" in order to be palatable. In the realm of home improvements, "doctoring" refers to a quick fix, temporary patch-job, or a makeshift repair. It can also refer to tampering with or altering something, such as "doctoring" the evidence. People generally "doctor" themselves.
We have doctored the nursing title of advanced practice, and are nursing an understanding of the doctor title in advanced nursing!
Perhaps this is why being a doctor-nurse is usually met with a giggle. I have doctored plenty of canned pasta sauces in my day, and certainly nursed my share of spirits, but I cannot say vice versa. While I am not personally much for titles, I feel as one of the first crop of DNPs to hit the clinical setting, using the title is an important step to establishing an understanding of where advanced practice nursing is going on the (long) road to parity.
When people use the term "nursing" in the colloquial sense, they are usually referring to a nurturing role or healing process. Breast feeding, otherwise known as nursing, is a natural process of providing life-sustaining nourishment and immunity factors for growth and development from mother to child. We also use it to refer to consumption of adult nourishment, such as "nursing" a whisky all evening. "Nursing" may also refer to the need to nourish and nurture pragmatic matters like retirement accounts or mild illness and injury. Nursing, as in "back to health," brings to mind images of dressing wounds, holding hands, providing words of support and encouragement, or enduring the process by handling with care (such as nursing a hangover brought on by the aforementioned whisky!). People generally "nurse" others.
The colloquial use of "doctoring" often refers to fixing something. This is particularly the case with under-spiced or pre-prepared foods that one needs to alter or, "doctor up" in order to be palatable. In the realm of home improvements, "doctoring" refers to a quick fix, temporary patch-job, or a makeshift repair. It can also refer to tampering with or altering something, such as "doctoring" the evidence. People generally "doctor" themselves.
We have doctored the nursing title of advanced practice, and are nursing an understanding of the doctor title in advanced nursing!
Perhaps this is why being a doctor-nurse is usually met with a giggle. I have doctored plenty of canned pasta sauces in my day, and certainly nursed my share of spirits, but I cannot say vice versa. While I am not personally much for titles, I feel as one of the first crop of DNPs to hit the clinical setting, using the title is an important step to establishing an understanding of where advanced practice nursing is going on the (long) road to parity.
Tuesday, January 8, 2013
A Better Command Hallucination
The other night a colleague and I were reflecting on some of the people we have worked with who have the bizarre, fun variety of psychosis and started brainstorming "wouldn't it be nice if" treatments. File the following under "why not?" Or delusional optimism.
An inspiring advocate for people living with schizophrenia, Dr. Fred Frese, who has lived with the disorder for several decades, provides one of my favorite descriptions of different types of psychosis by comparing them to different types of drunk. There are angry violent drunks, sad crying drunks, quiet withdrawn drunks, functional productive drunks, and (best?) of all, fun dancing drunks. Unlike intoxication, schizophrenia does not wear off, and the goal of most providers is to eliminate the symptoms. This is not always the primary goal of the patient. It is important to keep that in mind before labeling a patient as non-compliant.
Hearing a running commentary of behavior, judgements, and commands to act out anything from mundane to harmful behaviors is hard to fathom if you do not experience it for yourself. While schizophrenia is often referred to as the cancer of mental illness, the good news about the paranoid type is that it is the most treatable. The bad news is that it is paranoid schizophrenia and debatable the most difficult one to live with. While treatment options are improving, the older medication therapies either give you parkinsonian-like side effects including drooling, involuntary movement, and shuffling gait, while the newer ones make you fat, tired, stupid, and impotent. In addition to these expected side effects, other cumbersome factors may include cost, drug-drug interactions, regular blood monitoring, altering multiple lifestyle factors to prevent toxicity or ineffectiveness, or life-threatening adverse reactions. Oh, and more often than not, patients experience residual symptoms, or "breakthrough" psychosis. It is a high cost of doing business and I get why many folks would rather suffer the disease than the treatment.
So I got to thinking, maybe we are on the wrong track. Instead of elimination of voices through dopamine blockades in the prefrontal cortex, maybe what we need are to change the content of the delusions to something more health promoting. What if we could trigger the positive self talk areas of the brain, particularly the Broca or Wernicke regions, to create a better hallucination? Instead of hearing "your worthless" or "they are all against you" or "jump off the bridge," they could be replaced with "do 30 minutes on the treadmill," or "check that nutrition label for trans fats," or "get home by 10 so you can get your beauty rest!" Who would need Weight Watchers and a personal trainer with voices like that?!
Though I am sure if we did had that ability through medication, advertisers would find a way to have the voices promote their products.
So on second thought, maybe not.
An inspiring advocate for people living with schizophrenia, Dr. Fred Frese, who has lived with the disorder for several decades, provides one of my favorite descriptions of different types of psychosis by comparing them to different types of drunk. There are angry violent drunks, sad crying drunks, quiet withdrawn drunks, functional productive drunks, and (best?) of all, fun dancing drunks. Unlike intoxication, schizophrenia does not wear off, and the goal of most providers is to eliminate the symptoms. This is not always the primary goal of the patient. It is important to keep that in mind before labeling a patient as non-compliant.
Hearing a running commentary of behavior, judgements, and commands to act out anything from mundane to harmful behaviors is hard to fathom if you do not experience it for yourself. While schizophrenia is often referred to as the cancer of mental illness, the good news about the paranoid type is that it is the most treatable. The bad news is that it is paranoid schizophrenia and debatable the most difficult one to live with. While treatment options are improving, the older medication therapies either give you parkinsonian-like side effects including drooling, involuntary movement, and shuffling gait, while the newer ones make you fat, tired, stupid, and impotent. In addition to these expected side effects, other cumbersome factors may include cost, drug-drug interactions, regular blood monitoring, altering multiple lifestyle factors to prevent toxicity or ineffectiveness, or life-threatening adverse reactions. Oh, and more often than not, patients experience residual symptoms, or "breakthrough" psychosis. It is a high cost of doing business and I get why many folks would rather suffer the disease than the treatment.
So I got to thinking, maybe we are on the wrong track. Instead of elimination of voices through dopamine blockades in the prefrontal cortex, maybe what we need are to change the content of the delusions to something more health promoting. What if we could trigger the positive self talk areas of the brain, particularly the Broca or Wernicke regions, to create a better hallucination? Instead of hearing "your worthless" or "they are all against you" or "jump off the bridge," they could be replaced with "do 30 minutes on the treadmill," or "check that nutrition label for trans fats," or "get home by 10 so you can get your beauty rest!" Who would need Weight Watchers and a personal trainer with voices like that?!
Though I am sure if we did had that ability through medication, advertisers would find a way to have the voices promote their products.
So on second thought, maybe not.
Sunday, December 2, 2012
VA Hiring Process
Prior to entering the DNP program, I knew I would have to make a choice between expanding my current private practice, or scaling back and seeking full time employment. I have derived an enormous amount of joy and freedom as an independent provider, and the practice has grown significantly despite an economic recession. However, an expansion in practice scope calls for major rebranding efforts that can result in more time, money, and emotional expense than starting a business from scratch. With the number of changes to health care coding and billing down the pike, and living in a state where we must have a collaborative (bribed) agreement with a physician to prescribe medications that are rightfully part of our independent scope of practice, I am not as bullish on private practice as I was a couple of years ago. Plus, it gets lonely working as a solo provider. I miss the camaraderie of coworkers and a stimulating environment that forces you to continually evaluate yourself as a provider, and challenges you to stay up-to-date on research, legislation, and best-practice.
Nurse practitioners have a lot of great options - some of my former colleagues have taken HRSA jobs in underserved areas, others are going academic, and some are like me. Just prior to graduation, I applied for positions in the VA after being encouraged by a few colleagues that are passionate about serving the veteran population. Having done the bulk of my clinical work with active duty soldiers, and being married to a (handsome, talented) veteran myself, it seemed like a natural fit for me. I was told the VA hiring process for healthcare workers can take a long time, and when I did some casual web surfing, I found the bulk of first-hand accounts came from LPNs and RNs. As a public service to anyone considering an advanced practice nursing career in the VA, I want to share my application and hiring process. Just keep in mind, "if you've seen one VA, you've seen one VA!"
April: I have a great conversation with a current NP who works outpatient and not only encourages me to apply, but provides excellent reassurance and advice regarding boards. Because I am already an FNP and will be eligible to take the PMHNP certification exam in 90-days, I quickly put in an application on April 24th to the one open position psych-NP, emergency and inpatient mental health consultations, to get my name in the system (open period 3/29-6/28). Had I been an RN only, I would not have applied until after graduation on May 25th.
May: I apply for 2 additional positions as they become available through USA Jobs, one on the 10th for an outpatient mental health clinic and the second on the 25th for the homeless veteran program (open period 5/7-9/17 and 5/18-6/18 respectively). In addition to the usual demographic questions, I was asked to provide my resume, 3 references, unofficial transcripts, a separate application for nurses/nurse anesthetists, declaration for federal employment, and copies of all licenses/certifications. Immediately after applying, the status in USAJobs is marked as "application received," and within a week they read "eligible - application referred to selecting official."
June: I have my interview on the 5th, which is conducted by 2 APRNs and 3 LCSWs. Before sitting down they joke about the formulaic nature of the interview, with each one asking standard questions in a round: "Why the VA?" Tell me about a time when you had a difficult patient and resolved it/collaborated for a positive outcome/had a conflict with an MD and managed it?," "What is recovery," "What is evidenced-based practice." Since I am also an acupuncture and Oriental medicine provider, they asked a few seemingly off-the-record questions about my practice. I also had a chance to ask them about why they chose the VA, involvement in national organizations, and what they do and do not love about working for the government. On June 12th, I am sent a disposition letter on the consultation position that another candidate was selected, and the status in USA jobs changes to "not selected." On June 20th I receive and official notification letter on the homeless veteran position stating "We have reviewed your application and found you qualified for the position listed above. Your name has been referred to the employing agency for consideration. THIS IS NOT A JOB OFFER."
July: This is where things get confusing. On July 3rd, I am sent an official notification email on the consultation position that states I am eligible (see above) and the status in USAJobs changes to "application referred." July 6th I am sent a disposition letter that I am not selected for the homeless veteran position. July 18th I am sent both the qualified notification and not selected disposition letters on the clinic job, then on the 30th I receive a notice that my application forms have been received and the USAJobs status changes from not selected to application received. I reach out to one of the APRNs, and am told that while my interview went well, they had an overwhelming amount of applicants who already had certification (my boards were scheduled for later that month) and/or were already VA employees. I am encouraged to keep my eyes out because more positions would become available.
August: All quiet.
September: Ten minutes from boarding a flight to London late in the month, I get a phone call from the VA telling me they would like to speak with me about an open position. After playing some telephone tag, it turns out the consultation position had been re-listed under a different announcement number. I speak with one of the mental health staff members responsible for finishing the hiring process who decides my previous interview is good for this position. I am tentatively given an offer pending credentialing, nurse professional standards board, and VetPro. Once that is all sorted out, I will be given an official offer. She cautions me that because I have to go through both nursing and mental health services the process can take awhile, and not to get caught up in Grade and Step, but to look at the salary and decide if I want to accept or negotiate. On the 24th I am sent the Qualifications Questionnaire with instructions to brag about my experiences as much as possible, because it can mean the difference of many steps and possibly a grade in overall pay. Up to this point, every person has been helpful and quick to respond to questions and concerns.
October: The first part of the month involves gathering and faxing documents, getting my physical, drug test, and fingerprinting done at the facility, and VETPRO. They anticipate I should be ready to start by November or December. I get a call late in the month informing me of my grade, step in salary, which is delightful. The process actually moved faster than expected, but as I have to give my private practice patients notice, I ask to start on December 3rd.
November: I receive my officially signed, in-writing offer letter dated for the 9th with instructions on where to go and what to bring for my first day of orientation. Hooray! I will have 2 weeks of orientation under nursing services before getting transferred to my official duty station in mental health services.
To sum up, from application to walking into orientation, it took 223 days (7 months and 9 days), though I could have started up to a month earlier if I did not have previous commitments to patients, conferences, and travel. Had I been certified as a PMHNP at the time I applied in April, I likely would have been hired initially and started within 90 days, give or take.
I have no plans to blog about my work at the VA from here on out unless it is relevant to nursing practice and complies with all the usual rules and regulations that come with working in government healthcare. As I have done all of this research and policy development on social networking for mental health providers, it would be utterly embarrassing to violate my own guidelines!
Nurse practitioners have a lot of great options - some of my former colleagues have taken HRSA jobs in underserved areas, others are going academic, and some are like me. Just prior to graduation, I applied for positions in the VA after being encouraged by a few colleagues that are passionate about serving the veteran population. Having done the bulk of my clinical work with active duty soldiers, and being married to a (handsome, talented) veteran myself, it seemed like a natural fit for me. I was told the VA hiring process for healthcare workers can take a long time, and when I did some casual web surfing, I found the bulk of first-hand accounts came from LPNs and RNs. As a public service to anyone considering an advanced practice nursing career in the VA, I want to share my application and hiring process. Just keep in mind, "if you've seen one VA, you've seen one VA!"
April: I have a great conversation with a current NP who works outpatient and not only encourages me to apply, but provides excellent reassurance and advice regarding boards. Because I am already an FNP and will be eligible to take the PMHNP certification exam in 90-days, I quickly put in an application on April 24th to the one open position psych-NP, emergency and inpatient mental health consultations, to get my name in the system (open period 3/29-6/28). Had I been an RN only, I would not have applied until after graduation on May 25th.
May: I apply for 2 additional positions as they become available through USA Jobs, one on the 10th for an outpatient mental health clinic and the second on the 25th for the homeless veteran program (open period 5/7-9/17 and 5/18-6/18 respectively). In addition to the usual demographic questions, I was asked to provide my resume, 3 references, unofficial transcripts, a separate application for nurses/nurse anesthetists, declaration for federal employment, and copies of all licenses/certifications. Immediately after applying, the status in USAJobs is marked as "application received," and within a week they read "eligible - application referred to selecting official."
June: I have my interview on the 5th, which is conducted by 2 APRNs and 3 LCSWs. Before sitting down they joke about the formulaic nature of the interview, with each one asking standard questions in a round: "Why the VA?" Tell me about a time when you had a difficult patient and resolved it/collaborated for a positive outcome/had a conflict with an MD and managed it?," "What is recovery," "What is evidenced-based practice." Since I am also an acupuncture and Oriental medicine provider, they asked a few seemingly off-the-record questions about my practice. I also had a chance to ask them about why they chose the VA, involvement in national organizations, and what they do and do not love about working for the government. On June 12th, I am sent a disposition letter on the consultation position that another candidate was selected, and the status in USA jobs changes to "not selected." On June 20th I receive and official notification letter on the homeless veteran position stating "We have reviewed your application and found you qualified for the position listed above. Your name has been referred to the employing agency for consideration. THIS IS NOT A JOB OFFER."
July: This is where things get confusing. On July 3rd, I am sent an official notification email on the consultation position that states I am eligible (see above) and the status in USAJobs changes to "application referred." July 6th I am sent a disposition letter that I am not selected for the homeless veteran position. July 18th I am sent both the qualified notification and not selected disposition letters on the clinic job, then on the 30th I receive a notice that my application forms have been received and the USAJobs status changes from not selected to application received. I reach out to one of the APRNs, and am told that while my interview went well, they had an overwhelming amount of applicants who already had certification (my boards were scheduled for later that month) and/or were already VA employees. I am encouraged to keep my eyes out because more positions would become available.
August: All quiet.
September: Ten minutes from boarding a flight to London late in the month, I get a phone call from the VA telling me they would like to speak with me about an open position. After playing some telephone tag, it turns out the consultation position had been re-listed under a different announcement number. I speak with one of the mental health staff members responsible for finishing the hiring process who decides my previous interview is good for this position. I am tentatively given an offer pending credentialing, nurse professional standards board, and VetPro. Once that is all sorted out, I will be given an official offer. She cautions me that because I have to go through both nursing and mental health services the process can take awhile, and not to get caught up in Grade and Step, but to look at the salary and decide if I want to accept or negotiate. On the 24th I am sent the Qualifications Questionnaire with instructions to brag about my experiences as much as possible, because it can mean the difference of many steps and possibly a grade in overall pay. Up to this point, every person has been helpful and quick to respond to questions and concerns.
October: The first part of the month involves gathering and faxing documents, getting my physical, drug test, and fingerprinting done at the facility, and VETPRO. They anticipate I should be ready to start by November or December. I get a call late in the month informing me of my grade, step in salary, which is delightful. The process actually moved faster than expected, but as I have to give my private practice patients notice, I ask to start on December 3rd.
November: I receive my officially signed, in-writing offer letter dated for the 9th with instructions on where to go and what to bring for my first day of orientation. Hooray! I will have 2 weeks of orientation under nursing services before getting transferred to my official duty station in mental health services.
To sum up, from application to walking into orientation, it took 223 days (7 months and 9 days), though I could have started up to a month earlier if I did not have previous commitments to patients, conferences, and travel. Had I been certified as a PMHNP at the time I applied in April, I likely would have been hired initially and started within 90 days, give or take.
I have no plans to blog about my work at the VA from here on out unless it is relevant to nursing practice and complies with all the usual rules and regulations that come with working in government healthcare. As I have done all of this research and policy development on social networking for mental health providers, it would be utterly embarrassing to violate my own guidelines!
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